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S2 E7: It’s Not Enough to Meet People Where They Are If We Still Judge Where They Came From

TheNOCE Dose Season 2 Episode 7 cover. Titled "It’s Not Enough to Meet People Where They Are If We Still Judge Where They Came From" with Amy Thatcher, SLP

In this episode of The NOCE Dose, we are joined by Amy Thatcher, a speech-language pathologist and neonatal feeding specialist with over fifteen years of experience supporting medically fragile and opioid-exposed infants. Together, we explore what truly family-centered care looks like in the NICU—from dismantling stigma and clinical bias to building trust with birthing parents and extended families. Amy shares why “meeting people where they are” is not enough if judgment remains in the room, and how small, intentional practices—calling babies by name, modeling caregiving, and inviting families into the healing process—can radically improve outcomes for infants with neonatal abstinence syndrome (NAS).
The conversation also dives into the long-term developmental implications of early opioid exposure, including feeding, oral-motor development, communication milestones, and theory of mind. We discuss the impact of the Eat, Sleep, Console model, the importance of early intervention services, and how awe, transparency, and compassionate education can quiet shame and empower caregivers. This episode is a powerful reminder that healing begins not only with clinical tools, but with humanity, trust, and the courage to break silence—one baby, one family, and one conversation at a time.

Amy Thatcher, SLP

A passionate educator and advocate, Amy speaks on topics including neonatal feeding therapy, caregiver empowerment, and interdisciplinary collaboration in hospital settings. She is a member of the National Association of Neonatal Therapists. Amy is a seasoned Speech-Language Pathologist and neonatal feeding specialist with over 15 years of clinical experience supporting medically fragile infants, including those born with opiate exposure. Based in Santa Fe, New Mexico, she brings a rare blend of clinical precision, compassionate care, and leadership to her work in hospital-based neonatal therapy. Holding a Master of Science in Speech Pathology from the University of New Mexico, Amy has dedicated her career to advancing feeding outcomes for newborns with complex medical and neurological needs. Her expertise spans oral motor assessments, swallow evaluations, and individualized feeding interventions, with a specialized focus on infants affected by Neonatal Abstinence Syndrome (NAS). Amy’s work is grounded in the belief that healing begins with connection—and that every infant and their family deserves a strong start supported by informed, compassionate care.

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Funding for this activity was made possible in whole or in part by the Nevada Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) Director’s Office through the Fund for a Resilient Nevada, established in Nevada Revised Statutes 433.712 through 433.744. The opinions, findings, conclusions, and recommendations expressed in this podcast are those of the author(s) and do not necessarily represent the official views of the Nevada Opioid Center of Excellence or its funders.

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